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May Puzzler

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  • Chris Cardinal

    Fan turned off?

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  • Patrick Ferrell

    These are three separate prints, right?

    Also - I can't exactly tell by the photo, but I assume that the apparent spiraling isn't simply from helical, single-wall printing.

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  • Matthew Fiedler

    They are three different prints. The tower has 1/4" wall thickness which gives two internal and external perimeters with some infill. 

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  • Artemio Mendoza

    I just registered in the forums, just in time to still answer the puzzle (still May!)  :-)

    I think this is due to a leveling problem, either the nozzle or the bed.

    As it is not a  random pattern, I would say the culprit is the bed being tilted in angle, producing the leveling issue. As the gigabot has a "floating"  bed, the nozzle will not clog in the area closer to the bed surface but just push it   instead, creating the pattern.

    Am I right? 

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  • Patrick Ferrell

    The bands appear to be to be a 'macro' issue - not necessarily banding of each layer, but I can't tell from the photos.

    If it were simple leveling, then I would expect the effect to be worse at bottom then correct as the layers replicated a surface parallel to the nozzle travel.  (This change in the visual slope from bottom to top may actually be happening - hard for me to tell from the photo.)  In any case, the angle of the banding appears to be around 5-degrees - that much bed tilt would cause immediate failure.

     

    If it's mechanical, then I'd look for hysteresis or slop somewhere, but I don't think that's it.

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  • Artemio Mendoza

    Humm ... going that way, I had a similar patter some time ago due to a loose timing band, but it was in a delta printer, so, I am not sure what the results would produce similar failure in a granty printer.

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  • Darrel Barnette

    Here's my wild guess...

    The temperature coefficients for the nozzle thermocouple weren't set right, causing a larger than normal sinusoidal variation in the nozzle temperature.

    Darrel

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  • Brad M Bourgoyne

    I would guess temperature fluctuation as well. I get banding like this when my heater is bouncing too far above and below the set temperature. Seems to affect where the extrusion lays down on curving paths.

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  • Darrel Barnette

    And the answer is...?

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  • Matthew Fiedler

    Thanks for the prod Darrel, I was really stumped when I first saw this and immediately blamed temperature variation. I re-tuned the PID for the hot end and printed it again. At the same time I noticed the extruder was extruding about 15-20% too much material and I reduced the extruder calibration. The next print came out great. In reality I changed two variables at the same time (like a mad scientist) but I would bet the strange pattern has more to do with the PID tuning than the over-extrusion. Temperature variations can cause the printed part to look more glossy or mat with just 5-7C temp difference.

     

     

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